supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: thanks, president chiu. madam city attorney, to follow up on that line of questioning though, on one hand you say it should be easy to determine what is misconduct or not. on the other hand you say it's fact specific. i think commissioner hur's comments does that not invite subjectivity and gets us back to what the question is here, about clear delineation and having security and not the future abuse this potentially in the future, not to say anybody in this room or the current mayor, but anyone in the future, have a real clear sense of what this means. more about that because it seems very contradictory right now. >> you know, i guess the way to approach that is to point out that the simple fact that there are facts involved, and that you have to take the facts into consideration, and that there are many different permeantations that could possibly come up, doesn't make a rule too unwieldy, or too unpredictable or too arbitrary. one of the reasons why it's not arbitrary there is an entire body of case law t